After several weeks of fighting this beast :wacko3:....I finally laid this Whale to rest :dash1: !!!!!! This is by far the most complicated roof I have ever built....but I think I nailed it!!!! with 1,000,000 nails... :mocking:
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I don't think a beer ever tasted as good as the one I drank yesterday afternoon....... :drinks: .....what a F'n nightmare this was.... :wacko2:
Now you know how the CanDman earns his keep........ if anyone needs a house built....... :bye:
From 1 builder to another well done :good2:
Roof trusses have certainly allowed architects, designers, draftsmen etc. to go all out now days. Try pitching that one by hand :wacko3:
Wait to you come down under and see our timber framing. We don't have to allow for snow loads. So lower pitches and 70x35 Pine framing @ 450 centres external and 600 internal.
Looks like tooth picks compared to that frame.
:drinks:
Darran
Quote from: oz.fj on October 05, 2013, 04:37:10 PM
From 1 builder to another well done :good2:
Roof trusses have certainly allowed architects, designers, draftsmen etc. to go all out now days. Try pitching that one by hand :wacko3:
Wait to you come down under and see our timber framing. We don't have to allow for snow loads. So lower pitches and 70x35 Pine framing @ 450 centres external and 600 internal.
Looks like tooth picks compared to that frame.
:drinks:
Darran
Hey ...thx for the pat on the back Darran.....as for conventionally cutting this roof......I think the jury is still out on that one......lol......so many problems with these trusses that needed resolving (6 major and 10 minor)....every truss had to be positioned just right for all the roof planes to work.....and with so many corners and girder trusses (and7 different pitches) .......zero margin for error..... I almost would have preferred cutting the roof..... :mail1:....no surprises....(30% of the roof was filled in conventionally) ..... I am really looking forward to getting together and talking shop.....I am so excited about heading over there... :yahoo: ....c u soon :good:
Kev
Quote from: oz.fj on October 05, 2013, 04:37:10 PM
We don't have to allow for snow loads.
What is this "snow" thing........................... :rofl2:
Quote from: roverfj1200 on October 05, 2013, 05:30:17 PM
Quote from: oz.fj on October 05, 2013, 04:37:10 PM
We don't have to allow for snow loads.
What is this "snow" thing........................... :rofl2:
:blum2:
Quote from: CanDman on October 05, 2013, 12:59:00 PM
After several weeks of fighting this beast :wacko3:....I finally laid this Whale to rest :dash1: !!!!!! This is by far the most complicated roof I have ever built....but I think I nailed it!!!! with 1,000,000 nails... :mocking:
Now you know how the CanDman earns his keep........ if anyone needs a house built....... :bye:
Mate, you are a gifted Artisan. I`m not a carpenter but do have a bit of a clue on construction. I spent 7 years as the elected treasurer of the Sunshine coast HIA (Housing Industry Assoc) Committee and also 5 years as the KBA (Kitchen & Bathroom Assoc) Chairman that took me to many Exec meetings all about bullshit politics, but also the occasional dispute on Engineering requirements, Construction regulations and techniques...I`ve sent a copy of your achievement off to my Brother-in-law. He too is a gifted Craftsman with appreciative eye for brilliance...so he too can have an "aha...nice" moment like I just did...
Mate I needed a beer just looking at it...So I can just imajine how good that beer`d be after making it happen! :drinks:
Quote from: The General on October 05, 2013, 07:04:59 PM
Quote from: CanDman on October 05, 2013, 12:59:00 PM
After several weeks of fighting this beast :wacko3:....I finally laid this Whale to rest :dash1: !!!!!! This is by far the most complicated roof I have ever built....but I think I nailed it!!!! with 1,000,000 nails... :mocking:
Now you know how the CanDman earns his keep........ if anyone needs a house built....... :bye:
Mate, you are a gifted Artisan. I`m not a carpenter but do have a bit of a clue on construction. I spent 7 years as the elected treasurer of the Sunshine coast HIA (Housing Industry Assoc) Committee and also 5 years as the KBA (Kitchen & Bathroom Assoc) Chairman that took me to many Exec meetings all about bullshit politics, but also the occasional dispute on Engineering requirements, Construction regulations and techniques...I`ve sent a copy of your achievement off to my Brother-in-law. He too is a gifted Craftsman with appreciative eye for brilliance...so he too can have an "aha...nice" moment like I just did...
Mate I needed a beer just looking at it...So I can just imajine how good that beer`d be after making it happen! :drinks:
Mate....you're getting me a bit misty eyed there......(easy on the praise :blush:)....I apologize if I appear to be showing off..it is not my intention... I know sometimes life can be a real uphill battle....and sometimes if we fight and hang on to the bitter end.....we can win..... it is always a great moment for me to stand on the back of my foe in absolute amazement .....and shout !!!
Doug....... ? :drinks:
Moby Dick; Starbuck to Ahab, blasphemy! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1utb7NgQDI#)
What a speech !!!!!!
Kev
Aussies appreciate a good roof!
Colorbond Ad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi0QexM5eKM#)
Quote from: The General on October 06, 2013, 04:14:56 AM
Aussies appreciate a good roof!
:rofl2: great add..... !!!
Well if you like roofs...you love Moby's evil twin :diablo:.......I built this beast in 09......wasn't as complicated ....just a bit bigger..... :mocking:
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Please forgive me if I appear to be boasting or immodest .......this is my job and career and the place where I have to be a professional....... but ...in here ........ I can come and play and have fun......and be silly.....and relax ..... and enjoy the company of some awesome people from all over the world :drinks:
Kev
Now I know where I can find a source to build my FJ sanctuary when I win big and have $$$ to spend on my favorite hobby...
Awesome work Kev, it makes my 3,200sqft A-frame look like a kennel!
Regards,
Conor
Thx for the compliment Conor , The problem with these monster homes is that they can eat the clock very quickly and if your hourly guys aren't producing....can become a bit of a double edged sword......3200 square feet is the best size for me to make the best money. Maybe one day when I am able to do so, I would very much love to visit Scotland England and Ireland......my roots go way back to Glasgow ....4 generations......one day......love to have a pint with you lad :drinks:
And Monkey man.....whenever your ready......one thing though.... I have never built a tree house b4 ....would be cool as hell.......could rig up a large hip waiter service to get your hobby wheels up and down......I do think though you should be looking at some of your own California Redwoods.....them beasts have some girth....... :good2:
CanDman
Ha ha Kev. I followed the photos without first checking who started the post. I was thinking "Geez, somewhere in the U.S. they have the same starter castles I see along Major Mackenzie Drive." (Southern Ontario for the other readers)
I took a custom log building course waaayyyyy back; held at King Campus. Everything by hand, in the field. No two logs the same. Discussions on roof structure and loading seemed to take on a religion of its own that some guys lived for and others just had their eyes glaze over and walked away. Like music, the subject fascinates me but I can't actually perform any of it myself. So, great work there.
Charlie
those are awesome pics Kev, building a house like that is a work art from my point of view...oh course I'm biased in that I sell building materials for a living (I'm a manf rep) and once swung a hammer to put food on my table. But you should be very proud of those homes and I'd personally love to see more as I really enjoy watching a project grow from a wish to a finished deal...congrats to you, well done!!!
hey...BSI and sir Charles....thank you very much for your kind and generous compliments........I started framing when I was 22 and caught on pretty easily (naturally). It was something I took to rather seamlessly. After a year and a bit of banging the 80's boxes up........I went on my own. That was 1986 and I was 4 months shy of my 23rd birthday.....and I have been banging them up ever since. I love being outside.......could never be a suit and tie guy....no offence to anyone who is...it's just not me........
" I'd rather trust a country man, than a town man
he looks at you once , you know he understands
don't need any shield, when you're out in the field
I'd rather trust a man who works with his hands
you can judge by his eyes, take a look if you can
he'll smile through his guard, survival trains hard"
Genesis "The Lamb Lies down on Broadway"
"Chamber of 32 doors"
anyway.......I OWE I OWE, IT'S OFF TO WORK WE GO.........
Kev
:shok: :shok: Look at the size of those monsters! Holy heck, that is some serious square footage going into those homes.
Quote from: X-Ray on October 12, 2013, 07:50:40 PM
:shok: :shok: Look at the size of those monsters! Holy heck, that is some serious square footage going into those homes.
Ya for some reason.....size really matters here .....thank God I have the hammer to get it done..... :rofl:
Hey guys...here's a look at my current project....and we have only completed half of the roof....I'm hoping to have the roof completed by the time I head to ....well you know...... :mocking: . This roof is 100% conventional framing.......some of the rafters were so long that we had to use 12" LVL's for rafter (L.V.L. -LAMINATED VANEER LUMBER). There is more steel beams in this one house than I used all last year......a lot of the ceilings are either vaulted, raised or barreled. We probably would have already been finished if it weren't for the unusually cold winter we are having. Well enjoy the pics....and if you have any Q's I would be happy to answer.
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Here is a link to view all the pictures I have collected............
http://s1071.photobucket.com/user/photocandman/slideshow/Balsam%20custom (http://s1071.photobucket.com/user/photocandman/slideshow/Balsam%20custom)
Kev
I used to apply Sheathing & Shear Panels. Anywhere that sheets of 4X8 plywood or chip board would be used, I would be there installing it. That first house looks like a Sheathers nightmare. Forget about Piece Price on that one & go Hourly on the pay.
~JM~
Quote from: ~JM~ on February 02, 2014, 09:50:36 AM
I used to apply Sheathing & Shear Panels. Anywhere that sheets of 4X8 plywood or chip board would be used, I would be there installing it. That first house looks like a Sheathers nightmare. Forget about Piece Price on that one & go Hourly on the pay.
~JM~
You got that right JM...a pc workers nightmare...in fact, I did lose money on that job......depressing.......70% of the plywood laid had to be cut to fit...... :dash1:. The good news is.... that money pit lead me to the one I am on now.....seems I scored some big points with the guy I am building for now.......and I am loving it :yahoo:.....first winter I am actually making money :good:
".....you know you got to go through hell
....before you......get to Heaven !!!!!!!!!! "
Steve Miller- Jet Airliner with lyrics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PljkJTYt7M#)
I worked as a Sheather in the mid to late 80's. I use to look for large storage buildings being built. There were a lot of them being put up back then. Sometimes 3 stories high. I didn't care for the T&G sub-floors much as they always went slower, but they were still good money makers. The roofs were barely crowned & damn near flat... Those were blow & go. Often make $25+ an hour @.04 cents a square foot. I really liked hanging the shear panel though. Every single storage unit had 3 walls of shear panel at $2.00 a sheet. That was some smooth sailing!
Wish I was still young enough & in good enough shape to still do that. This ole body has been beat up just a bit too much though.
Good luck & watch out for those left over 2X4 braces with 16d nails sticking out.
~JM~