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Title: Sent RPM Randy the carbs...
Post by: rktmanfj on August 21, 2013, 04:19:50 PM

that go with this tank:

:shok:

(http://i643.photobucket.com/albums/uu159/rktmanfj/1990%20FJ1200%20project/20130414_130100_zpscf772471.jpg)

That should keep him busy for a while.   :yes:

Title: Re: Sent RPM Randy the carbs...
Post by: ken65 on August 21, 2013, 05:21:03 PM
wow, how long was it sitting?
Title: Re: Sent RPM Randy the carbs...
Post by: fj11.5 on August 21, 2013, 06:18:45 PM
There were carbs connected to that tank :bad:, you cruel bastard, ,poor randy  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Sent RPM Randy the carbs...
Post by: Travis398 on August 21, 2013, 06:30:39 PM
Won't take him very long to throw them away and sell ya a new set though.................

(popcorn)
Title: Re: Sent RPM Randy the carbs...
Post by: Capn Ron on August 21, 2013, 06:32:06 PM
Was that dragged from the bottom of a lake?   :scratch_one-s_head:

Cap'n Ron. . .
Title: Re: Sent RPM Randy the carbs...
Post by: Pat Conlon on August 21, 2013, 08:16:17 PM
A Katrina flood salvage? I hope Randy can take some Picts of those carbs...eeeeewh.  :bad:
Title: Re: Sent RPM Randy the carbs...
Post by: rktmanfj on August 21, 2013, 10:28:02 PM

It sat under a tarp outside for three years or so.    :unknown:

FWIW, Randy saw that pic a while back, and told me he's up for the challenge.

I'll bet he is!

I decided to let his knee heal for a bit before I took him up on it, though.

Title: Re: Sent RPM Randy the carbs...
Post by: racerrad8 on August 24, 2013, 03:34:32 PM
They're here...

and they smell as bad as that tank looks...  :wacko3:

I am going to have to get them torn down and cleaned so they don't stink up my shop :flag_of_truce:

Randy - RPM

Title: Re: Sent RPM Randy the carbs...
Post by: rktmanfj on August 24, 2013, 03:42:39 PM
Quote from: racerrad8 on August 24, 2013, 03:34:32 PM
They're here...

and they smell as bad as that tank looks...  :wacko3:

I am going to have to get them torn down and cleaned so they don't stink up my shop :flag_of_truce:

Randy - RPM



The tank has been dry as a bone for some time, and it still stinks up the shop whenever I move it.     :empathy2:

Title: Re: Sent RPM Randy the carbs...
Post by: racerrad8 on August 24, 2013, 06:15:18 PM
Well...

Here we go, and I thought Billy's carbs were bad...these are 100 times worse

Three slides stuck in carbs
Two float needles corroded into needle seat
Three floats stuck; would not move with pin in.
Major Corrosion of internal carb parts.
Two pilot jets on right completely plugged to top.
All emulsion tubes had to be driven out.

(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/shop8-24-13004_zps9b83fb7b.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/shop8-24-13004_zps9b83fb7b.jpg.html)
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/shop8-24-13005_zps4e5b1e87.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/shop8-24-13005_zps4e5b1e87.jpg.html)
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/shop8-24-13006_zpsbdf5b7b0.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/shop8-24-13006_zpsbdf5b7b0.jpg.html)
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/shop8-24-13007_zpse39956ca.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/shop8-24-13007_zpse39956ca.jpg.html)
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/shop8-24-13008_zps8508e608.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/shop8-24-13008_zps8508e608.jpg.html)
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/shop8-24-13009_zps5dbba9bd.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/shop8-24-13009_zps5dbba9bd.jpg.html)
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/shop8-24-13010_zps36005aa6.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/shop8-24-13010_zps36005aa6.jpg.html)
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/shop8-24-13011_zps0edec79e.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/shop8-24-13011_zps0edec79e.jpg.html)
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/shop8-24-13012_zps5f287a06.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/shop8-24-13012_zps5f287a06.jpg.html)
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/shop8-24-13013_zps67435ef4.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/shop8-24-13013_zps67435ef4.jpg.html)
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/shop8-24-13016_zpsa3533b86.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/shop8-24-13016_zpsa3533b86.jpg.html)
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/shop8-24-13017_zpsebce356b.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/shop8-24-13017_zpsebce356b.jpg.html)

I tried to blow carb cleaner and air through the internal posts of the carbs and most are completely plugged. They are in the cleaner now. If I can get them cleaned out then I think they can be saved, if not I gave the best effort.

We'll see...

Randy - RPM

Title: Re: Sent RPM Randy the carbs...
Post by: FJ_Hooligan on August 24, 2013, 07:20:29 PM
UGH!
Looks like a write-off to me.  I would guess that the petcock wasn't working and let a tankful of fuel slowly replenish the bowls as it evaporated.

I've never seen that kind of gunk that attacked only the steel components.  Did the PO maybe use something funky in the fuel to try to stabilize it and ended up doing more damage?  Looks almost like battery corrosion.  Remembering stale 2-stroke fuel from back in the day, I can only imagine the stench.

I'm surprised that no float posts were harmed in the making of these pictures.
Title: Re: Sent RPM Randy the carbs...
Post by: Bminder on August 25, 2013, 08:54:01 AM
Wow!  What is that crud?
Title: Re: Sent RPM Randy the carbs...
Post by: giantkiller on August 25, 2013, 10:25:32 AM
Yes what is that crud? Did he pour NOS in his tank? My bike had a full tank when it was parked. And was bone dry when I got it 10+years later. Didn't look anything like that.
Title: Re: Sent RPM Randy the carbs...
Post by: giantkiller on August 25, 2013, 10:33:15 AM
The gas cap looks like someone filled the tank with great stuff foam. And then tried to remove it with battery acid. WOW!!!!
Title: Re: Sent RPM Randy the carbs...
Post by: rktmanfj on August 25, 2013, 10:37:56 AM
Quote from: giantkiller on August 25, 2013, 10:33:15 AM
The gas cap looks like someone filled the tank with great stuff foam. And then tried to remove it with battery acid. WOW!!!!

It only took about 15-20 minutes to get it open.    :yes:


Title: It's a miracle
Post by: racerrad8 on August 30, 2013, 07:49:49 PM
Taaa Daaa...

Well, the worst carbs I have ever seen have been completed and test run before getting ready to send the back.

(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/DanCarbs002_zps5d62cb13.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/DanCarbs002_zps5d62cb13.jpg.html)

(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/DanCarbs005_zps604ece73.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/DanCarbs005_zps604ece73.jpg.html)
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/th_DanCarbs006_zps8d0433d5.jpg) (http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/DanCarbs006_zps8d0433d5.mp4)

I will take a few pictures internally when I drain the fuel bowls before shipping to be able to compare the before & after.

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: Sent RPM Randy the carbs...
Post by: Capn Ron on August 30, 2013, 07:54:12 PM
Wow, those look good!  Did you ever figure out what was growing in there?

Cap'n Ron. . .
Title: Re: Sent RPM Randy the carbs...
Post by: giantkiller on August 30, 2013, 08:57:30 PM
Wow You are a magician. 
Title: Re: Sent RPM Randy the carbs...
Post by: Pat Conlon on August 30, 2013, 09:29:20 PM
+4...What was that shit? Why did it foam like that? Was it the ethanol reacting with the brass? WTF?
Steve Conklin has a beautiful FJ he calls Thor...a Hank Scott 1350 with FCR's, a really bitchen bike.
Anyhoo...he has been riding a GSXR lately but when he pulled his FJ out to give it a run, his tank was full of green shit and rusty....just after a couple of months storage.
Title: Re: Sent RPM Randy the carbs...
Post by: rktmanfj on August 31, 2013, 10:14:39 AM

Those look awesome!

This project may end up running before the snow flies after all!     :biggrin:
Title: Here are a few shots of the inside
Post by: racerrad8 on August 31, 2013, 12:43:38 PM
Here are a few shots of the inside.

I am not sure if there was anything other than gasoline in the tank. I smelled like varnish and had that goo usually associated to it as well. The corrosion internally was the steel needle seat hold down and screws that had all of the fuzz.

The float needles were stuck in the seats and that is from the varnish.

There is a ton of work that must be done to the rest of the fuel system before bolting these onto the bike and that is going to be the biggest challenge as there is no way to dip the tank in cleaner...

Randy - RPM

(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/DansCarb001_zps8073a171.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/DansCarb001_zps8073a171.jpg.html)

(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/DansCarb002_zps7f2ac8d9.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/DansCarb002_zps7f2ac8d9.jpg.html)

(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/DansCarb003_zpsa52fd085.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/DansCarb003_zpsa52fd085.jpg.html)

(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/DansCarb004_zps0c9c717c.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/DansCarb004_zps0c9c717c.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Sent RPM Randy the carbs...
Post by: FJ_Hooligan on August 31, 2013, 02:33:01 PM
So it that what they look like after an ultrasonic cleaning or are there some new components thrown in there also?
Title: Re: Sent RPM Randy the carbs...
Post by: racerrad8 on August 31, 2013, 02:50:03 PM
Quote from: FJ_Hooligan on August 31, 2013, 02:33:01 PM
So it that what they look like after an ultrasonic cleaning or are there some new components thrown in there also?

They were completely disassembled and cleaned. I had to use, my hot water washer, ultrasonic as well as carb dip on this set.

For the parts I used the S/S Screw & O-ring kit (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=carbkit) and four of the 88-95 Carb Kits (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Carb%3Arebuildkit3).

Randy - RPM

Title: Re: Here are a few shots of the inside
Post by: rktmanfj on August 31, 2013, 03:34:38 PM
Quote from: racerrad8 on August 31, 2013, 12:43:38 PM

There is a ton of work that must be done to the rest of the fuel system before bolting these onto the bike and that is going to be the biggest challenge as there is no way to dip the tank in cleaner...

Randy - RPM

I've got a spare '89 tank that'll be cleaned up for the '89 right after the ECFR, so I'll probably take the (ugly, damaged paint) one currently on it to get the '90 going.

The '90 fuel pump and lines have been removed... If I'm not successful at cleaning the '90 tank, Plan B is to have the inside of the old '89 tank, blasted, red-koted, and paint it either satin black or black Line-X.

Title: Re: Sent RPM Randy the carbs...
Post by: rktmanfj on September 09, 2013, 07:44:05 PM

Found these on the porch today:

(http://i643.photobucket.com/albums/uu159/rktmanfj/d45d1051-ac9d-4b01-8ae0-ce30070d6149_zps310bd862.jpg)

Thanks Randy for your top-notch work!      :good2:

I never would have believed that those could be used again, let alone look presentable.    :nea:

Title: Re: Sent RPM Randy the carbs...
Post by: movenon on September 09, 2013, 07:51:25 PM
Quote from: not a lib on September 09, 2013, 07:44:05 PM

Found these on the porch today:

(http://i643.photobucket.com/albums/uu159/rktmanfj/d45d1051-ac9d-4b01-8ae0-ce30070d6149_zps310bd862.jpg)

Thanks Randy for your top-notch work!      :good2:

I never would have believed that those could be used again, let alone look presentable.    :nea:



To bad I wasn't driving by your front porch today  :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2:  They look good.
George

Title: Re: Sent RPM Randy the carbs...
Post by: FJ Flyer on September 11, 2013, 05:27:35 AM
Makes me want to bite the bullet and pull the carbs off the '87.